http://www.mustardseedmedia.com/podcast/episode19

It’s super techy, because it’s assuming you know Drupal… but once you get about 4 mins in, he starts showing what’s up.

And yea, I actually just cut and paste whatever I put into my “post” box from WP into the exerpt box and it seems to work fine…although I have not updated WP in a bit for my main site, so there may be something wiggy with a newer version of WP. I have been mulling over completely rehauling my site as well, just using the blip showplayer and using custom fields in WP. Mainly because I think multiple feeds/formats are no longer needed, with flash playing mp4 and the Iphone, etc….mp4 just seems the way to go…

And I agree with you that tools besides WordPress should be included with Show in a Box. I know I was one of the people saying I wanted to just get it working in WordPress before I had to learn other CMS systems. But all that means is, I didn’t want to be responsible for learning multiple CMS and making tutorials about it. If anyone wants to learn another system and make tutorials about it, I’m all for that! So I’m really glad that Verdi and Jen have gotten into Drupal, and I’ll be even more glad when/if they make time to share what they have learned in tutorial form. And meanwhile, when I learn anything new, I’ll be trying to document that in tutorial form and share it.

Thanks for the links especially, since I don’t think I was around for all the original discussion, but I’ll definitely go back and read up in case there’s anything in there that causes an AHA moment.

this is the wp custom field + rss feed mod conversation i was referring to:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/55322

and my relevant post:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/56528

waybackmachine has my example blog post archived if interested:

http://web.archive.org/web/20071223213752/http://www.vastmachine.com/blog/

it’s been over 2 years and its interesting that you bring this up and the fact that not much or any progress has been made really.

another thought…. some of you mention how long it has taken to properly learn and use drupal or wp… you could also put attention on learning about php and xml and mix your own custom solutions with whatever blog or cms software you prefer to use. the irony is, it is probably more difficult to figure out how to make a module or plugin than it is to just whip up a companion solution with some basic coding. not nec friendly to the wp or drupal dev community when you do that but sometimes its ok to not give a shit about that and just get it working without all the rules and developer etiquette.

regarding drupal…. i started using it in 2004 and then really got into it when i was on the ourmedia.org launch team. i stopped using drupal at some point but i had a drupal site up for tinkering last year and it was a great improvement frfrom previous versions. i’ll take a look at it again soon.
wordpress didnt excite me much and though i was somewhat involved with the show in a box group, i expressed how drupal and other tools/solutions should be included and not just wordpress.

over the winter, i had tried this other cms called concrete5. looked promising but didnt have time to get too involved with it. i still prefer to write my own web apps and i also am just floating by with twitter, tumblr and a bliptv account.

cheers.

For a long time I didn’t use Feedburner because PodPress made such a nice, iTunes-compatible feed for me. Then I had an incident where my web host upgraded PodPress for me – that may have broken some functionality of PodPress, or it may have been one of the WordPress upgrades, or even one of the PodPress upgrades, and I decided to go ahead and use feedburner instead because I felt like I can no longer count on PodPress.

But I miss the enhanced feed it used to make, for sure. It was the best one because it worked properly in the most delivery/viewing environments. That’s what I would like to recreate.

But agreed – this needs to be easy for people wanting to watch our videos … or they’ll go elsewhere. Then who’d watch my silly videos?

Also – in google reader, when Verdi posts a new video, and I click on it in google reader (the verdi or the talkbot feeds), it bounces me to a new tab to watch the video.

When I click on one of my own videos in Google reader, it plays it within google reader.

I’m using WordPress (wordpress thesis theme and the show in a box theme for my two blogs)… both work the same way for me.

What’s the difference? Am I missing something much more video/techie here? If so, I might have to go hide out with Heath

I checked the undergrowth.org video feed here:
http://undergrowth.org/taxonomy/term/31/0/feed

At least in iTunes it says the feed has no episodes with media that iTunes can play, so they definitely have not set things up the way I’m looking to find. Same thing with pool.org.au – iTunes says there are no playable episodes.

Also, I looked at the podcast feed for audiofoundation.org.nz, here:
http://www.audiofoundation.org.nz/all_audio/feed
There’s nothing in it!

So thus far I’m not seeing what I’m hoping for. The Mustardseed Media Video Podcast Jen linked to is much closer – they have actual episode descriptions at least. But still no episode thumbnails or podcast image. Nevertheless, theirs is much better than what comes out of WordPress when you use a Flash player to display your video.

I think they’re still on drupal5 (with custom theme)
http://undergrowth.org/motion_pixels is their video page

they use it well for community & pdf book distribution

or NZ Audio Foundation : http://www.audiofoundation.org.nz
- they keep a library or NZ experimental sound art works – it’s drupal with some custom modules (to link artists/labels/releases etc). I think the podcast audio section is CCK/views – I could check with the dev how he ended up doing it

(I helped with prototype sites for these to show them how drupal could help them but they built these final sites themselves)

if this helps

I don’t use this as I host the video elsewhere. what I do is just add the embed code and select ‘html full’ as the Input Format for the post (I keep most posts defaulting to Filtered HTML for other people)

& I don’t really worry about the rss for my videos’ distribution (though I use rss for the content distribution a lot – but most of those don’t have video, only my blog does). but if u want to see that working I can show you pretty quickly. I’m on drupal6 though. prior to the new views/CCK (when I was on previous versions) I prob would have used one of the media modules to handle the video with rss – so I could paste the link from hosted-elsewhere-videos.

I’ve been using drupal since 2003 and it’s great – gets better with each release.

Cheryl if you want to try something on my site, feel free. I can show u through it if u like.

(I haven’t changed the ‘theme’ of the site so it’s not pretty – some drupal sites are pretty these days. so don’t look at that part. it’s more of a data entry site for me)

As to the other plugins, I *have* looked, and I think there are viable substitutions out there, and my thought was to proof them this summer. Show in a Box should be “here are all the different ways to do this stuff, pick the one that works for you.” So we should show how to with Drupal and how to with WordPress and how to with the next awesome thing that comes along.

I appreciate the quick Drupal-glossary! Thanks! And thanks for the link as well.

Heath! Don’t despair. Your WordPress site works fine for now. If and when you need to change it, you’ll make it happen, and you’ll have help.

I’m redesigning my site this summer one way or another. It will probably be in WordPress and I will put the effort into getting my feeds to work the way I want. You’re working at learning Drupal. Heading into fall, we should have two working solutions, no? With two different CMS. And that’s better than telling everyone it’s time to switch to another CMS.

I’m not so much Drupal-resistant as I’m just not wanting to learn a whole new freaking system until I can see that someone else has been able to make it do what I want to make it do. I want to see that it can be done before I commit to the learning curve.

So far I have friends telling me it can be done, but I haven’t seen it actually working. I want to see it.

I have no idea why I wrote what I did above, I guess to illustrate how little I understand all this stuff…..or I could have just been in a smart ass mood and felt like being a, well….smart ass?….

you can decide…

The tried but true easy way to do it is to just use blogger or wordpress and put a simple link to a single video file in a post, run that through feedburner and bingo, you’re done. If you want fancier solutions they come at price. I haven’t seen any way around the problem of customization = more complexity.

Can anyone show me a Drupal site delivering video that works nicely both in the web page and in these other environments? I want to see that. I guess Verdi will have to build it first. Show me the screencast of this drag and drop feed builder. I don’t want to wait two years while I master Drupal in order to update my website. And what happens to my existing posts, does Drupal have an importer that will handle my WordPress database? Drupal’s a nice word, it’s fun to say, but, Jen, I don’t see it as a one-word solution for NOW – though I’ll change my mind in a heartbeat when someone shows me a Drupal videoblog feed that works in a browser and in a feed reader and didn’t take the videoblogger two years to learn to do it. Anyone got that link? Because I haven’t found it on my own. And I’ve been looking.

I agree, Verdi, WordPress as-is doesn’t cut it, and is part of the problem. But Sull’s right, there are ways to shape up the WordPress RSS feed. I think it’s just that plugin developers have ignored them. And that’s just it, Sull, I haven’t seen anyone come out with a way to combine custom fields in RSS automatically.